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Post by TexasBlue on Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:38 pm

When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Pat Buchanan
April 26, 2011


One month before the invasion of Iraq, Riah Abu el-Assal, a Palestinian and the Anglican bishop of Jerusalem at the time, warned Tony Blair, "You will be responsible for emptying Iraq, the homeland of Abraham, of Christians."

The bishop proved a prophet. "After almost 2,000 years," writes the Financial Times, "Iraqi Christians now openly contemplate extinction. Some of their prelates even counsel flight."

The secular despot Saddam Hussein protected the Christians. But the U.S. liberation brought on their greatest calamity since the time of Christ. Scores of thousands of those Iraqi Christians fleeing terrorism and persecution after 2003 made their way to Syria, where they received sanctuary from President Bashar Assad.

Now, as the FT and Washington Post report, the Christians of Syria, whose forebears have lived there since the time of Christ, are facing a pogrom should the Damascus regime fall.

Christians are 10 percent of Syria's population, successful and closely allied to the minority Alawite regime of the Assad family. Said one Beirut observer, "Their fear is that if the regime falls to the Sunni majority, they will be put up against the same wall as the Alawites."

For decades, notes the Post, the Assad regime "has protected Christian interests by enforcing its strictly secular program and by curbing the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood."

Bashar's father, Hafez al-Assad, slaughtered perhaps 20,000 followers of the brotherhood after they began a campaign of bombings and terror and attempted an uprising in Hama in 1982. Hafez al-Assad rolled up his artillery and leveled the city.

Observing the toll of dead protesters -- more than 100 this past weekend, more than 200 overall, the work of police, snipers and agents of the regime -- it is hard to summon up any sympathy for Bashar Assad. And if his regime were to fall, that would eliminate a patron of Hamas and Hezbollah and a close ally of Iran in the Arab world.

But before he embraces the Syrian revolution, President Barack Obama ought to consider, as President George W. Bush did not, what happens to Arab Christians when a long-repressed Muslim majority comes to power.

In Iraq, liberated Shiites used their newfound freedom to cleanse Baghdad of Sunnis while al-Qaida arrived and went straight after the Christians. In Syria, it would be a Sunni majority rising if Bashar and the Alawites were to fall.

What would that mean for Syria's Christians, for peace, for us?

Since 1973, even when clashes have occurred and wars have been fought in Lebanon between Israelis and Syria or its proxies, the Assad government has maintained the truce on the Golan Heights.

Would a Sunni-dominated Syria do the same?

With the fall of the Mubarak regime in Egypt have come Islamist attacks on Coptic Christians. How will the Copts fare if the Muslim Brotherhood wins the September election and writes Shariah into Egyptian law?

In "The Price of Revolution" a half-century ago, D.W. Brogan inventoried the costs of the revolutions that so often intoxicate secular Western man.

The French Revolution led to regicide, the September Massacres, the Terror, the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Catholics in the Vendee region of France, and almost two decades of Napoleonic wars.

The abdication of Czar Nicholas II led to the dictatorship of Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin, who would effect the murder of 1,000 times more victims than did the Spanish Inquisition in 300 years. And among the Bolshevik murder victims were the czar, his wife and his five children.

Fifteen years after the hated Kaiser, ruler of the Second Reich, abdicated, a proud veteran of his army, Adolf Hitler, established a Third Reich.

No altar-and-throne regime ever compiled a record of horror to match those of the French and Russian revolutions -- or those of Mao Zedong, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro and Pol Pot.

When the Shah of Iran fell, within a year we had the Ayatollah Khomeini.

Americans have welcomed the "Arab Spring." Yet we should be forewarned that among those liberated when dictators fall is the sort of men that Edmund Burke described:

"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites. ... Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters."

Americans, who incarcerate 2.3 million of their own citizens, 90 percent of them males, are surely aware of the truth Burke spoke.

And across the Middle East, there are millions of "intemperate minds" that would use the freedom and power democracy provides to majorities to suppress or eradicate their long-hated rival minorities.

If one-man, one-vote democracy across the Maghreb and Middle East is almost certain to strengthen the Muslim Brotherhood and to liberate Islamists to persecute Christians, why are we for it?

When did this idol of modernity called democracy, in which none of our fathers believed, become a golden calf we all must fall down and worship?
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Re: Pat Buchanan - When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Post by dblboggie on Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:59 pm

You know, I hate to say I told you so; and while I'm not yet in a position to say so, every day brings me closer and closer to vindication on the outcome of the Egyptian "revolution" - which is looking more and more like Iran-the-sequel.

What is happening in the Middle East is looking more and more like a nightmare for the West.
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Re: Pat Buchanan - When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Post by Guest on Wed May 18, 2011 7:51 pm

Only in that they are losing their dictators to control their people and allow us to use their nations for military bases, torture places, and oil company bullying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments#Middle_East

Middle East

Qatar – 8,029[6]
Bahrain – 1,495[2]
Kuwait - 10,548
Oman - 36[2]
United Arab Emirates - 96[2]

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/01/close-u-s-ally-and-new-egyptian-vp-soliman-keeps-the-domestic-beasts-at-bay.html


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/oilgulf.html

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Re: Pat Buchanan - When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Post by TexasBlue on Wed May 18, 2011 7:55 pm

Cookie Parker wrote:Only in that they are losing their dictators to control their people and allow us to use their nations for military bases, torture places, and oil company bullying.

Again with the usual left wing talking points. Anything original?
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Post by Guest on Wed May 18, 2011 8:01 pm

TexasBlue wrote:
Cookie Parker wrote:Only in that they are losing their dictators to control their people and allow us to use their nations for military bases, torture places, and oil company bullying.

Again with the usual left wing talking points. Anything original?

facts. Hardly makes them talking points when there are facts, does it?

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Re: Pat Buchanan - When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Post by TexasBlue on Wed May 18, 2011 8:02 pm

Cookie Parker wrote:
TexasBlue wrote:
Cookie Parker wrote:Only in that they are losing their dictators to control their people and allow us to use their nations for military bases, torture places, and oil company bullying.

Again with the usual left wing talking points. Anything original?

facts. Hardly makes them talking points when there are facts, does it?

Back them up.
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Re: Pat Buchanan - When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Post by Guest on Wed May 18, 2011 8:03 pm

TexasBlue wrote:
Cookie Parker wrote:
TexasBlue wrote:
Cookie Parker wrote:Only in that they are losing their dictators to control their people and allow us to use their nations for military bases, torture places, and oil company bullying.

Again with the usual left wing talking points. Anything original?

facts. Hardly makes them talking points when there are facts, does it?

Back them up.

I did. See my post you failed to quote.

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Re: Pat Buchanan - When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Post by TexasBlue on Wed May 18, 2011 8:09 pm

Apparently Obama hasn't changed a thing since the Bush years, huh?


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Re: Pat Buchanan - When Dictators Fall, Who Rises?

Post by The_Amber_Spyglass on Thu May 19, 2011 1:11 pm

Stop bickering both of you and argue the points please.
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