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Post by TexasBlue on Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:58 pm

Corpses and rotting teeth: FDA requires cigarette packages to carry grisly new warning labels

Associated Press
June 21, 2011


RICHMOND, Va. - Rotting teeth and gums. Diseased lungs. A sewn-up corpse of a smoker. Cigarette smoke coming out of the tracheotomy hole in a man's neck. Cigarette packs in the U.S. will have to carry these macabre images in nine new warning labels that are part of a campaign by the Food and Drug Administration to use fear and disgust to discourage Americans from lighting up.

The labels, announced on Tuesday, represent the biggest change in cigarette packs in the U.S. in 25 years.

At a time when the drop in the nation's smoking rate has come to a standstill, the government is hoping the in-your-face labels will go further than the current surgeon general warnings toward curbing tobacco use, which is responsible for about 443,000 deaths a year in the U.S.

"These labels are frank, honest and powerful depictions of the health risks of smoking," Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in a statement.

The FDA estimates the labels will cut the number of smokers by 213,000 in 2013, with smaller additional reductions through 2031.

Other countries such as Canada and Uruguay have used graphic, even grisly, warnings for years, and various studies suggest they spur people to quit. But exactly how effective they are is a matter of debate, since the warnings are usually accompanied by other government efforts to stamp out smoking.

"I think it's a great deterrent for kids," said Kristen Polland, 24, of Prattville, Ala. "If you start there, you have won half of the battle."

Rhonda Vanover, 43, of Cincinnati, on the other hand, said: "No one is going to stop me __ unless they make it illegal. Cigarettes get me through the day. They are part of my life."

The labels also include images of a smoker wearing an oxygen mask and a mother and baby with smoke swirling nearby. Some images are not graphic at all; one shows a man wearing an "I Quit" T-shirt.

The warnings will take up the entire top half — both front and back — of a pack of cigarettes. They must also appear in advertisements and constitute 20 percent of each ad. Cigarette makers will have to run all nine labels on a rotating basis. They have until the fall of 2012 to comply.

The legality of the new labels is already being challenged in a federal lawsuit bought by some of the major tobacco companies, which argue that the warnings will relegate the brand name to the bottom half of the cigarette package, making it difficult or impossible to see.

A spokesman for Richmond-based Altria Group Inc., parent company of the nation's largest cigarette maker, Philip Morris USA, said the company was looking at the final labels and had no further comment. Altria Group is not a party in the federal lawsuit.

A pack-a-day smoker would see the graphic warnings more than 7,000 times per year.

American Cancer Society CEO John R. Seffrin said the labels have the potential to "encourage adults to give up their deadly addiction to cigarettes and deter children from starting in the first place."

The introduction of graphic warning labels was required in a 2009 law that, for the first time, gave the federal government authority to regulate tobacco. Tuesday's announcement follows reviews of scientific literature, public comments and results from an FDA-contracted study of 36 labels proposed last November.

The U.S. first mandated the use of warning labels stating, "Cigarettes may be hazardous to your health" in 1965. The current warning labels — put on cigarette packs in the mid-1980s — say more explicitly that smoking can cause lung cancer, heart disease and other illnesses. But the warnings contain no pictures; they consist only of text in a small box.

The share of Americans who smoke has fallen dramatically since 1970, from nearly 40 percent to about 20 percent. But the rate has stalled since about 2004, with about 46 million adults in the U.S. smoking cigarettes. It's unclear why it hasn't budged, but some experts have cited tobacco company discount coupons on cigarettes and lack of funding for programs to discourage smoking or to help smokers quit.

In recent years, more than 30 countries or jurisdictions have introduced labels similar to those created by the FDA. The World Health Organization said in a survey done in countries with graphic labels that a majority of smokers noticed the warnings and more than 25 percent said the warnings led them to consider quitting.

In 2000, Canada introduced blunt warning labels that included images of a pregnant woman smoking, a child and parent puffing away, and a drooping cigarette to illustrate the risk of impotence from smoking. Since then, the county's smoking rate has declined from about 26 percent to about 20 percent. How much the warnings contributed is unclear because the country took other steps to reduce smoking.

David Hammond, a health behavior researcher at the University of Waterloo in Canada, who worked with the firm designing the labels for the FDA, said that while the images are graphic, they are necessary.

"This isn't about doing what's pleasant for people," he said.
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Post by TexasBlue on Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:00 pm

The FDA know they cause cancer. They know they're bad for humans and the environment. Why don't they ban them? Oh yeahhhhhh..... politicians love the tax revenue they generate. Typical hypocritical politicians and bureaucrats. They are as addicted to the tax revenue as smokers are to the cigs. But while they're at it, maybe they should add pictures of bed ridden fat people to all McDonald's Big Mac cartons. No wonder this country is broke. Too much government.
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Post by dblboggie on Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:00 pm

TexasBlue wrote:The FDA know they cause cancer. They know they're bad for humans and the environment. Why don't they ban them? Oh yeahhhhhh..... politicians love the tax revenue they generate. Typical hypocritical politicians and bureaucrats. They are as addicted to the tax revenue as smokers are to the cigs. But while they're at it, maybe they should add pictures of bed ridden fat people to all McDonald's Big Mac cartons. No wonder this country is broke. Too much government.

Hell yeah!
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Post by BubbleBliss on Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:55 am


Ain't gonna stop me from smoking...
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Post by TexasBlue on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:41 pm

BubbleBliss wrote:
Ain't gonna stop me from smoking...

You smoke? Who'da thunk it!
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Post by BubbleBliss on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:46 pm


Yessir!
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Post by TexasBlue on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:50 pm

My poison:


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Post by BubbleBliss on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:57 pm


Pall Mall Lights? I can't see the picture, I just read the title in the URL.



My choice!

What I find funny is that a lot of these cigarette brands that are popular in Europe like L&M, Philipp Morris (yes, it's a brand of cigarettes), Lucky Strike, etc. you can barely find in the US.
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Post by TexasBlue on Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:28 pm

Lucky Strikes are available but not many people smoke them.

I used to have German people trade for American cigarettes when I was stationed there. ROFL They said that our American cigs were better than theirs.


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Post by The_Amber_Spyglass on Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:13 pm

Fair trade - German beer for American cigarettes. Sorry Tex but the USA makes the worst beer in the world and the Germans make the best Very Happy
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Post by The_Amber_Spyglass on Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:14 pm

We've had these warnings on packets for the best part of 8 years now. Not sure it has done any good.
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Post by TexasBlue on Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:20 pm

The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:Fair trade - German beer for American cigarettes. Sorry Tex but the USA makes the worst beer in the world and the Germans make the best Very Happy

Can't disagree with you there.

The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:We've had these warnings on packets for the best part of 8 years now. Not sure it has done any good.

We've had the Surgeon General's warning since the 1960's on ours.


What really gets me is how politicians are ramping up the no-smoking crusade (both parties). Yet, they don't just outright ban them on a state level. These creeps like the tax money it rolls in. That's why. If they banned them, no more tax dollars. But they want everyone to quit.... and keep on raising the taxes for their special interests.
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Post by BubbleBliss on Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:26 pm

The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:Fair trade - German beer for American cigarettes. Sorry Tex but the USA makes the worst beer in the world and the Germans make the best Very Happy

Can I get an Amen!!!
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Post by The_Amber_Spyglass on Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:27 pm

A lot of rubbish gets spoken about it here. The pro-smoking lobby are insistent that the tax they pay makes more for the NHS than it actually costs in treatments. The anti-smoking lobby claims the opposite is true. Well, one side is lying.

I've never smoked and never will but I'm not anti-smoking. The one thing I could never stand was people smoking around me when I'm eating. I remember about 6 years ago BecMacFeegle and I were on holiday in Santorini (Greece) and we were at an open air sea food restaurant. We had a chain-smoking French couple on the table next to us. bleugh, that was revolting
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Post by BubbleBliss on Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:29 pm


I don't even like having people smoke around me when I'm eating. I don't smoke in closed rooms if there are non-smokers present, that's just a respect thing.
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Post by TexasBlue on Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:03 pm

The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:A lot of rubbish gets spoken about it here. The pro-smoking lobby are insistent that the tax they pay makes more for the NHS than it actually costs in treatments. The anti-smoking lobby claims the opposite is true. Well, one side is lying.

Maybe both sides are lying. Stretching the truth would be a more accurate way of looking at it. Each side leaves out pertinent information.

The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:I've never smoked and never will but I'm not anti-smoking. The one thing I could never stand was people smoking around me when I'm eating. I remember about 6 years ago BecMacFeegle and I were on holiday in Santorini (Greece) and we were at an open air sea food restaurant. We had a chain-smoking French couple on the table next to us. bleugh, that was revolting

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I don't even like having people smoke around me when I'm eating. I don't smoke in closed rooms if there are non-smokers present, that's just a respect thing.


I can't stand smoke when I'm eating ans I smoke!

Another thing, I respect those who don't like smoke in their home or are allergic to it. At my dad's, I go outside because his wife sneezes bad when I smoke. My dad doesn't go that far. He goes to the stove and smokes with the vent turned on.
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Post by BubbleBliss on Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:09 pm


I don't smoke in my appartment because I don't like the smell of stale smoke... or the smell of smoke in general.
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Post by TexasBlue on Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:16 pm

BubbleBliss wrote:
I don't smoke in my appartment because I don't like the smell of stale smoke... or the smell of smoke in general.

I smoke in my place. A least when I'm not smoking, I still have the flavor in the air. ROFL
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Post by dblboggie on Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:35 pm

I don't mind smoke when I'm eating or under any conditions - well, I'm not a big fan of people smoking in a car with all the windows up, but that's about it.

When I was growing up it seemed everyone smoked. Both of my parents and my grandparents smoked. They even smoked in the car with the windows up in the winter and in the house with windows closed - and even at the dinner table. I guess I just got used to it. Such is just how it was back in the day.
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Post by TexasBlue on Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:50 pm

The windows up thing drives me batty, too.


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