Imbalance in US TV Media Coverage of Greenhouse Gas Regulation
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Imbalance in US TV Media Coverage of Greenhouse Gas Regulation
As Skeptical Science readers are well aware, there is a scientific consensus that human greenhouse gas emissions are causing dangerous global warming. The Australian Climate Commission recently concluded that we need to limit global human CO2 emissions to no more than 1 trillion tons between 2000 and 2050, which requires that we take immediate steps to significantly reduce our emissions. Scientists generally don't offer advice as to how we should achieve the necessary carbon emissions reductions, but in its recent report, America's Climate Choices, the US National Academy of Sciences concluded that a price on carbon emissions would be the most effective way to achieve significant emissions cuts while minimizing the impact on the economy. There is also a consensus amongst economists with expertise on climate change that the US should commit to reducing greenhouse gas emissions (Figure 1), and that doing so will be beneficial for the economy.
Figure 1: 2009 NYU climate economist survey results when asked under what circumstances the USA should reduce its emissions
On top of all that, polls have consistently shown that over 70% of the US public supports US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulation of greenhouse gases (i.e. here, here, and here). Polls also showed that a majority of Americans supported the proposed carbon cap and trade system (i.e. here, here, and here) before it was blocked by the Senate in 2009.
Media Misrepresentation
Unfortunately, those who rely on the US television media for their information may be unaware of the widespread consensus in favor of regulating and/or pricing carbon emissions. A new Media Matters report analyzed television news guests who discussed the EPA's role in regulating greenhouse gas emissions from December 2009 through April 2011 on the major US news networks: Fox News (FNC), Fox Business Network (FBN), MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, and on the nightly and/or Sunday news programs of ABC, CBS, NBC, or Fox Broadcasting Co.
The results of this analysis are rather disturbing. During the period in question, 199 guests on the analyzed networks discussed EPA regulation of greenhouse gases. 152 of these (over 76%) opposed the regulations, 35 (less than 18%) supported them, and 12 (6%) were neutral (Figure 2)
Figure 2: Media Matters survey results
As Figure 2 also illustrates, the guests were predominantly interviewed on three networks: FBN (39%), FNC (32%), and CNBC (15%). 83% of the guests on FBN, 81% on FNC, and 72% on CNBC opposed EPA greenhouse gas regulations. MSNBC was the network to most accurately reflect the consensus support for emissions controls (80% in favor), but only interviewed 13% as many guests on the subject as FBN. Note however that this analysis excludes news stories which did not include interviews.
Lack of Climate Experts
Another piece of disturbing information to emerge from the Media Matters report: of the 199 guest interviews on these network news programs, only two might be classified as interviews with climate scientists. In both cases, FNC interviewed Patrick Michaels, a long-time "skeptic" who works for the right-wing think tank Cato Institute. Michaels gained some degree of fame by erasing Scenarios B and C from Hansen et al. (1988) in his testimony to US Congress in order to misrepresent the study's results – hardly the lone scientist who should be representing the entire climate science community in these TV network interviews.
Elected Officials
Of the remaining network guests, 35 were elected officials. 30 of these were Republicans (who almost universally oppose carbon regulations), and an additional two were very moderate Democrats (then-Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana and then-Governor Joe Manchin of West Virginia) who also oppose carbon regulations. All 12 guest elected officials on FBN, all 10 on FNC, and all 8 on CNBC opposed carbon regulations. MSNBC was again the lone network to accurately represent the prevailing opinion on the issue, with 3 of 4 guest elected officials supporting greenhouse gas regulations.
Advocacy Groups
A further 29 guests were identified as being from "advocacy groups" (i.e. right-wing think tanks like Cato and Heritage Foundation, environmental organizations like Greenpeace and Sierra Club, unions like United Steelworkers, etc.). Of these advocacy group guests, in keeping with the previously-discussed statistics, 22 (76%) opposed greenhouse gas regulations, while the remaining 24% were in favor.
Validity of Criticisms
It's worth noting that EPA regulation of greenhouse gases is not the best solution to the climate problem. It has a larger economic impact than a market-based system like cap and trade, and it's less effective at reducing emissions, and therefore there are valid reasons to oppose it. However, the US has only implemented greenhouse gas regulations because we have thus far failed to implement a carbon pricing system. The people who oppose EPA regulation tend to be the same people who blocked the proposed carbon cap and trade system. So while there are valid reasons to criticize EPA regulations as a suboptimal solution, the problem is that most of those who oppose it oppose all solutions. In short, there's nothing wrong with opposing EPA greenhouse gas regulations, if you propose a better alternative. Inaction, which is the goal of most of these critics, is not an option.
Manufactured Controversy
In short, a vast majority of climate scientists, economists with climate expertise, and the US public in general support carbon pricing and/or regulation. And yet the vast majority of guests on US TV network discussions of carbon regulations have opposed them. This represents a major failure of the US media to accurately represent both expert and public opinion in its newscasts. Instead, the media seems to be creating a manufactured controversy by creating the illusion of widespread opposition to greenhouse gas emissions limits.
Before we lay all of the blame on Fox, while the network and its affiliates are responsible for a large proportion of the imbalance in question, there also appears to be a failure amongst other networks to adequately cover the subject. For example, CNN – which strives to be the neutral voice between conservative Fox News and liberal MSNBC – only interviewed four guests on the subject during the period in review, three of which opposed the regulations. The problem is both over-representation of the "skeptics", and under-representation of those supporting the proposed climate solutions, and especially an under-representation of climate experts (both scientific and economic).
We urge the media to both stop manufacturing controversy, and adequately and accurately cover this critical issue. The only way our populace can make good decisions is if they are informed decisions.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/imbalance-us-tv-coverage-ghg-regulation.html
So do I hear a consensus here from the conservatives that the right wing media should be taken to task for their blatant conservative agenda? Nah, thought not
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It looks to me like there's more supporters on FNC than even on MSNBC (which is very left wing). You left that part out.
TexasBlue
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You're not serious? They had 2 more supporters but 50 more than MSNBC in opposition.
In terms of proportion they were actually about the same but in opposite directions: roughly 80/20.
In terms of proportion they were actually about the same but in opposite directions: roughly 80/20.
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The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:You're not serious? They had 2 more supporters but 50 more than MSNBC in opposition.
In terms of proportion they were actually about the same but in opposite directions: roughly 80/20.
I was looking at the graph. The MSNBC supporters are slightly below 10 and FNC is right at 10. In fact, the FNC has the most supporters than the others in that graph.
TexasBlue
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The actual figures are underneath the graph.
FNC 52- / 10 +
MSNBC 2- / 8 +
Leaving out FBN (Fox Business Network? - you left that out ) FNC had the most guests than all the others put together.
FNC 52- / 10 +
MSNBC 2- / 8 +
Leaving out FBN (Fox Business Network? - you left that out ) FNC had the most guests than all the others put together.
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The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:The actual figures are underneath the graph.
FNC 52- / 10 +
MSNBC 2- / 8 +
Leaving out FBN (Fox Business Network? - you left that out ) FNC had the most guests than all the others put together.
I rest my case. FNC leads all of those in that graph for supporters (though very nil overall).
FBN? I don't even get that channel. I don't know anybody who does. Like my dad said when I asked him the other day if he got it, "Naw, that shit is for the big business viewers." His point is that most people probably wouldn't watch it even if they did get it.
TexasBlue
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Tex I don't think you are getting that quantity is not important here when their total guest count was more than all of the others put together (bar FBN which neither you nor I seem to have heard of). It is abour proportion. Only 20% of their guests were supporters. How "balanced" is that for a channel that claims to be fair and give equal time to both sides?
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I understand what you're saying. I'm just putting forth the "numbers" (green in this case).
What about MSNBC's 8-2 ratio?????
What about MSNBC's 8-2 ratio?????
TexasBlue
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I am equally critical of that too. Either way, they had too few.
My point of contention is that you and dbl constantly ram home this idea that the "mainstream media" is constantly forcing a liberal agenda yet neither of you challenge Fox's assertion that it is balanced and fair. Clearly this study shows that it is not. I just wanted that acknowledged yet you seem determined to defend an 80-20 split?
My point of contention is that you and dbl constantly ram home this idea that the "mainstream media" is constantly forcing a liberal agenda yet neither of you challenge Fox's assertion that it is balanced and fair. Clearly this study shows that it is not. I just wanted that acknowledged yet you seem determined to defend an 80-20 split?
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The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:I am equally critical of that too. Either way, they had too few.
My point of contention is that you and dbl constantly ram home this idea that the "mainstream media" is constantly forcing a liberal agenda yet neither of you challenge Fox's assertion that it is balanced and fair. Clearly this study shows that it is not. I just wanted that acknowledged yet you seem determined to defend an 80-20 split?
Not at all. It shows all media as being unfair to your side of the debate issue. Some not even remotely being fair (NBC).
As for "fair and balanced"
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/14/fox-news-barack-obama-media-opinions-contributors-s-robert-lichter.html
A lot of people confuse what the news is. The folks on FNC like Glenn Beck, O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, etc...are not news shows. The news shows themselves, such as the "Special Report" with Brett Bair or "America's Newsroom" are pretty balanced. You, Matt, have to watch those two and get back to me.
TexasBlue
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TexasBlue wrote:The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:I am equally critical of that too. Either way, they had too few.
My point of contention is that you and dbl constantly ram home this idea that the "mainstream media" is constantly forcing a liberal agenda yet neither of you challenge Fox's assertion that it is balanced and fair. Clearly this study shows that it is not. I just wanted that acknowledged yet you seem determined to defend an 80-20 split?
Not at all. It shows all media as being unfair to your side of the debate issue. Some not even remotely being fair (NBC).
As for "fair and balanced"
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/14/fox-news-barack-obama-media-opinions-contributors-s-robert-lichter.html
A lot of people confuse what the news is. The folks on FNC like Glenn Beck, O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, etc...are not news shows. The news shows themselves, such as the "Special Report" with Brett Bair or "America's Newsroom" are pretty balanced. You, Matt, have to watch those two and get back to me.
Hang on, so is your argument that the disparity of guests who opposed on Fox, is explained by 'comment' shows that don't count as news? Did all the non-comment, 'straight' news shows have a balanced selection of guests? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.
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The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:
So do I hear a consensus here from the conservatives that the right wing media should be taken to task for their blatant conservative agenda? Nah, thought not
Interesting article; the scale of the disparity surprises me.
bigger_guns_nearby- Birthday : 1985-07-14
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bigger_guns_nearby wrote:
Hang on, so is your argument that the disparity of guests who opposed on Fox, is explained by 'comment' shows that don't count as news? Did all the non-comment, 'straight' news shows have a balanced selection of guests? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.
Bill O'Reilly and Hannity aren't news shows. Keith Olbermann (now gone) and Rachel Maddow from MSNBC aren't news.
TexasBlue
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TexasBlue wrote:bigger_guns_nearby wrote:
Hang on, so is your argument that the disparity of guests who opposed on Fox, is explained by 'comment' shows that don't count as news? Did all the non-comment, 'straight' news shows have a balanced selection of guests? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.
Bill O'Reilly and Hannity aren't news shows. Keith Olbermann (now gone) and Rachel Maddow from MSNBC aren't news.
But it says a lot about the political opnion of the news station itself.
BubbleBliss
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BubbleBliss wrote:TexasBlue wrote:bigger_guns_nearby wrote:
Hang on, so is your argument that the disparity of guests who opposed on Fox, is explained by 'comment' shows that don't count as news? Did all the non-comment, 'straight' news shows have a balanced selection of guests? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.
Bill O'Reilly and Hannity aren't news shows. Keith Olbermann (now gone) and Rachel Maddow from MSNBC aren't news.
But it says a lot about the political opnion of the news station itself.
Maybe so. But if you watch any of the Sunday morning political shows on CBS, ABC and NBC, you see bias there.
TexasBlue
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Sunday morning compared to every day of the week....
BubbleBliss
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Tex, that article does not disprove the data I posted. The fact is that Fox had around 6 "no" guests for every 1 "yes" guest. That cannot be denied.
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The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:Tex, that article does not disprove the data I posted. The fact is that Fox had around 6 "no" guests for every 1 "yes" guest. That cannot be denied.
I don't deny that. I was going in the opposite direction from you showing that more pro-climate change people are on FNC than the others.
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TexasBlue
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And I'm explaining to you that it is the proportion that matters, not the quantities.
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The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:And I'm explaining to you that it is the proportion that matters, not the quantities.
And I'm doing the opposite (and being impossible to you).
Is it me or is the forum running slower than shit this morning? It's taking me around 2 minutes for the post to post.
TexasBlue
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*has last word*
Forum is running ok for me. No issues.
Forum is running ok for me. No issues.
bigger_guns_nearby- Birthday : 1985-07-14
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No problem for me but I had the same issue about a month ago, lasted about a week. At one point it took me ten minutes to access a thread.TexasBlue wrote:The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:And I'm explaining to you that it is the proportion that matters, not the quantities.
And I'm doing the opposite (and being impossible to you).
Is it me or is the forum running slower than shit this morning? It's taking me around 2 minutes for the post to post.
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If you want to play it that way then between Fox News and Fox Business News, they saturated the airwaves with naysayers. So much for that "balanced reporting".TexasBlue wrote:The_Amber_Spyglass wrote:And I'm explaining to you that it is the proportion that matters, not the quantities.
And I'm doing the opposite (and being impossible to you).
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