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Post by TexasBlue Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:58 pm

Princess Pelosi still yapping about fair share

Neal Boortz
June 1, 2012


Princess Pelosi and the Democrats continue to dwell on the idea that tax increases on the evil rich will solve our economic woes. Bolshoi. If only it were that easy. We are way beyond the point of tax increases. There simply aren’t enough rich people to sustain the big government dreams and schemes that the Democrats desire. Nonetheless, Princess Pelosi continues to push them as a solution. She wrote an article this week, expounding on her dumbfounding liberal logic:

We face two tasks: One is to promote growth and create jobs; the other to reduce the deficit. Our proposal achieves both goals.

Democrats are committed to moving the process forward by asking the wealthiest to pay their fair share through the expiration of tax cuts for those earning over $1 million a year. Democrats are committed to using the significant savings to reduce the deficit.

This “fair share” horsesqueeze needs to come to an end, but our only hope of achieving that is to tattoo it to the next winner or American Idol or run it on the cover of “People” magazine for a few months.

The only reason the Democrats get away with this “fair share” nonsense is because the American people are, with few exceptions, completely ignorant on the topic of who pays how much. You couldn’t find 2 out of 100 people on the street who could tell you that the top 10% of income earners pay way over 70% of all taxes, or that the top 1% of income earners pay almost 40% of all income taxes while earning less than 20% of all earned income. The Democrats prey on this ignorance – ignorance promoted by the government schools they protect and the leftist media – to push this focus group tested “fair share” line. After all, everyone wants to be fair, don’t they?

Here’s the troof ….

In order to cover the deficit by taxing the evil millionaires and billionaires, every one of those 200,000 households would have to be hit with a tax HIKE of $6 million. That’s on top of what they are already paying.

I won’t hold my breath that any member of the ObamaMedia will challenge Princess Pelosi on this fact.
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Post by dblboggie Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:52 pm

Ah yes, the Dems and the MSM would be out of business if it weren't for our government schools churning out countless numbers of the dumb masses.

Our republic is hanging by a thread.
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Post by TheNextPrez2012 Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:41 am

TexasBlue wrote:

In order to cover the deficit by taxing the evil millionaires and billionaires, every one of those 200,000 households would have to be hit with a tax HIKE of $6 million. That’s on top of what they are already paying.

1: It's not about the deficit. It's about being fair
2: Taxing ExonMobil $6 million means their worth goes from 428 BILLION to a measly 402 BILLION. Yeah that really hurts...
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Post by TexasBlue Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:36 am

TheNextPrez2012 wrote:
TexasBlue wrote:

In order to cover the deficit by taxing the evil millionaires and billionaires, every one of those 200,000 households would have to be hit with a tax HIKE of $6 million. That’s on top of what they are already paying.

1: It's not about the deficit. It's about being fair
2: Taxing ExonMobil $6 million means their worth goes from 428 BILLION to a measly 402 BILLION. Yeah that really hurts...

Fucking bullshit, dude. You and your "fairness" is moot. It's null and void. That's all you leftists have is that line. Fair, fair, fair... fuck fair. It's been posted 10,000 times in here HOW MUCH these wealthy pay in taxes. They pay more than their fair share. If you would bother to even look the shit up, you'd see that.

Taxing Exxon more means you will pay more at the pump. The profit margin for big oil companies like Exxon is about 8 cents for every dollar of revenue. That's less than half the profit margin of other industries like pharmaceuticals. Less than 3% of Exxon’s earnings are from gas sales in the US.

I swear... you leftists cut your noses off to spite your faces. It's absolutely un-fucking-real.

Fair, my ass. Class warfare is all it is. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Post by dblboggie Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:53 pm

You tell'em Tex.

This leftist "fair" rhetoric is positively ancient! It's the same old, worn, threadbare rhetoric of Marx and Engles and any number of other socialist/communist mouthpieces.

And no matter how many times this leftist ideology has failed throughout history, these jealous leftist myrmidons persist in their cries for something that has NEVER existed and never can, and that is an equality in outcomes - something they euphemistically call "social justice" to hide their true agenda. You see, equality of outcomes can only be accomplished under totalitarian rule - and even then never perfectly or for very long, as history teaches us.

You'd think these leftists would learn after so many failures. Apparently they are not all that bright. I don't know what else to make of it.
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Post by TexasBlue Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:29 am

dblboggie wrote:You tell'em Tex.

This leftist "fair" rhetoric is positively ancient! It's the same old, worn, threadbare rhetoric of Marx and Engles and any number of other socialist/communist mouthpieces.

And no matter how many times this leftist ideology has failed throughout history, these jealous leftist myrmidons persist in their cries for something that has NEVER existed and never can, and that is an equality in outcomes - something they euphemistically call "social justice" to hide their true agenda. You see, equality of outcomes can only be accomplished under totalitarian rule - and even then never perfectly or for very long, as history teaches us.

You'd think these leftists would learn after so many failures. Apparently they are not all that bright. I don't know what else to make of it.


Well, it pisses me off. I don't think NP is an idiot, but the rhetoric gets old when it's been debunked over and over. This is why I say many who support left wing policies do so out of envy and nothing more..... cutting their own nose off to spite their own face is how I view it.
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Post by dblboggie Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:01 pm

You are quite right to view an adherence to leftist ideologies as being based on envy in many cases, particularly amongst rank-and-file Americans.

And it is very much a case of cutting off one's nose to spite their face.

Both sad and infuriating.
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Post by TheNextPrez2012 Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:18 pm

It's scary to think that there are people that don't think "fairness" is a good trait to have. I wonder how many of you teach your kids that being fair is a bad thing...
Society has degraded to the point of having "fairness" be a BAD THING!
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Post by dblboggie Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:48 pm

You just don't get it NP. The world is not "fair," life is not "fair," it never has been and never will be. You could be the nicest, most generous and benevolent person in the the world and be struck down by a heart attack or a stray meteorite and die at 25. Is that "fair?" Nope. But that's life.

Likewise human nature is what it is and what it has always been. Every attempt by mankind to thwart human nature has been met with failure if not by outright disaster.

The closest we as humans have come to harnessing the self interest inherent in human nature for benefit of all was this nation's founding and employment of free market capitalism under the rule of law, not man.

Leftists never learn that cannot legislate, command, order or force human nature out of existence.

It has never been done because it cannot be done.
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Post by TexasBlue Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:17 pm

Fair, NP? Try this on for size then.....

How come I get no tax breaks as a single man that doesn't own a home or have any kids? Huh? People who are married get tax breaks (till January). Couples that have kids can claim them. People who own their own home get to claim deductions also.

What's fuckin' fair about that?

How's this? When I was out of work for two years, I had to pay taxes on unemployment checks. I also had the option to not pay them. I took the second option. Guess what? In 2010, 3/4 of my savings was wiped out so I could pay my taxes. Fair?????

How come a rich guy who already pays over 60% of his money to federal, state, country and local city taxes has to pay even more to satisfy you?

You blab on about fairness but make no argument to rebut anything. Use some facts, man. Then we can really debate.
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Post by TexasBlue Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:25 pm

Here, NP. Read this and get back to us. And I mean, really read it.
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Post by dblboggie Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:12 pm

I'm gonna guess that went unread by NP.
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Post by TexasBlue Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:37 pm

dblboggie wrote:I'm gonna guess that went unread by NP.

What? My rant or the post above yours?
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Post by dblboggie Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:06 pm

TexasBlue wrote:
dblboggie wrote:I'm gonna guess that went unread by NP.

What? My rant or the post above yours?

That link you recommended he read.
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Post by TexasBlue Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:52 pm

It'll go unread. ROFL
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Post by dblboggie Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:40 pm

Naturally.
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Post by TheNextPrez2012 Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:29 pm

All I'm saying is that the way we have it now is not the best way.
Just because we pushed society to this point does not make it right.

What we have now is a valueless society that puts greed and worthlessness ahead of everything else...and THAT is what you're supporting.
It almost seems like people are afraid of doing this new thing called "fairness" (which they probably learned in grade school)

What you don't get is that I support your "greed is good" philosophy. I just DON'T support the manner in which the money is made.
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Post by dblboggie Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:27 pm

TheNextPrez2012 wrote:All I'm saying is that the way we have it now is not the best way.
Just because we pushed society to this point does not make it right.

You're still not getting it NP. Of course what we're doing now is not the best way to run a country. But what we're doing and have been doing for the last 100+ years is the thing that is "not the best way," that is, we've been flirting with socialism since the turn of the last century and have been making government more and more responsible for things that we the citizens and states should be responsible for.

Leftists in federal and state governments have been pushing for the creation of a populace that is dependent on government for ever more of their wherewithal to survive, and at the same time usurping ever more of our personal freedoms.

Government has grown MASSIVELY over that last century, both in size and power over the personal lives of individual citizens. There is scarcely a single human activity that is not controlled in some way by the federal government!

That is NOT the right direction, and yet that is the very direction we are being herded into by leftists whose excuse is that they're doing it "for your own good," as though we were mindless children incapable of taking care of ourselves!

I, for one, am sick and fucking tired of some mentally challenged leftist bureaucrat telling me what is "for my own good!!!"

TheNextPrez2012 wrote:What we have now is a valueless society that puts greed and worthlessness ahead of everything else...and THAT is what you're supporting.

I am NOT supporting what this federal government and it's HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of blood-sucking bureaucrats are doing!!!! Not by a LONG FUCKING SHOT!!!!

That is what YOU are supporting. You clearly wish to go in the direction of ever growing federal entitlements and growing the government dependent class in our society - creating a literal slave state with all beholden to the all powerful federal government for their food, housing, education, transportation, child care, and even their fucking cell phones!!! (Which in the black community are now called "Obama-phones" - and that's no joke!)

TheNextPrez2012 wrote:It almost seems like people are afraid of doing this new thing called "fairness" (which they probably learned in grade school)

This thing you keep calling "fairness" is NOT FUCKING FAIR!!!! What will it take to drive this point through your head???

It's NAKED SOCIALISM!!!! And socialism is NOT FAIR - IT'S GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED THEFT!!!

It is the "redistribution" of wealth on an even more massive scale than we already have!

Is it "fair" that HALF THE WAGE EARNERS in this country are paying ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE INCOME TAXES, while the other half sucks off the teat of those working taxpayers????

HELL FUCKING NO!!!!

And yet this is EXACTLY what we have now in this country - and you want to heap more of this crap upon the population!!!!

That is NOT "fair" no matter HOW you slice it my friend!

TheNextPrez2012 wrote:What you don't get is that I support your "greed is good" philosophy. I just DON'T support the manner in which the money is made.

Just WHAT is that "manner" you speak of? If it's the crony capitalist/socialist nature of our current political environment, then I couldn't agree more.

BUT, if it's merely an objection to companies making profits (and "obscene" profits are every bit as valid and acceptable as any other level - it's supposed to be a free country and as long as the law is not being broken a person should be free to make what ever profits they can), then we are MILES apart.
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