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Post by BubbleBliss Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:15 am

German Airports Mull Passenger Profiling

German airports are considering assigning passengers to risk categories based on their age and ethnicity, and checking them accordingly, under a proposal by the designated head of the country's airports federation. Critics say the move would foment racism, breach anti-discrimination laws and fail to boost security.

German airports are considering introducing so-called passenger profiling in their security checks -- a controversial method used in Israel in which people are checked with different degrees of thoroughness based on their age, sex, ethnic group and other criteria.

"In this way the security systems can be used more effectively to the benefit of everyone involved," said the designated president of the Federation of German Airports (ADV), Christoph Blume, in an interview with Rheinische Post newspaper on Tuesday.

Blume, who is also manager of Düsseldorf airport, is due to become ADV president in January. He said profiling could help prevent excessive security checks at German airports. "Every new incident leads to further checks and security measures. This creates a security spiral in terms of new technical equipment which at some point will reach its technical and operational limits."

Profiling awakens memories in Germany of a police method developed in the 1970s to combat urban guerrillas of the far-left Red Army Faction by linking up personal data to filter out suspicious people.

Britain announced in November that it will use profiling to help identify possible terrorists.

Critics Reject Idea

The German Interior Ministry sounded unenthusiastic about Blume's proposal. "We are well set up at the airports," ministry spokesman Stefan Paris said on Tuesday. Airports, he said, were continually trying to improve security and had highly-trained staff. "We're not blind," he said.

The German Police Federation (GdP) criticized the idea. GdP chairman Bernhard Witthaut said: "Suspecting only potential attackers from certain countries of origin and with certain features could prove a dangerous mistake if someone who doesn't fit the profile commits an attack. Terrorists don't sleep."

He criticized airports for leaving security checks up to private firms which often pay low wages and then demanding that they should perform a core policing job such as profiling.

The spokeswoman for the opposition Left Party, Ulla Jelpke, said profiling would breach the German constitution which outlaws discrimination. "It would also promote racist and anti-Muslim prejudice," she said.

The chairman of the parliament's domestic affairs committee, Wolfgang Bosbach, a member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats, dismissed the proposal as "totally half-baked and legally dubious." Israeli-style profiling wouldn't lead to more security and would only create more irritation, he said. Anyone being called out of an airport line and subjected to additional checks would be perfectly justified to demand to know why and to be angry, said Bosbach.

IATA Wants Three Security Tunnels

Earlier this month, airline industry body International Air Transport Association announced a plan to replace lengthy and sometimes intrusive passenger security checks at airports with a new system aimed at finding "bad people, not bad objects." Under the project, travellers would be directed down one of three security tunnels depending on profiles based on biometric data and flight booking data.

"The current system of putting everyone through the same procedure -- taking off shoes, pulling out laptops -- is an incredible mess. It is causing longer and longer delays," said IATA director-general Giovanni Bisignani.

"With today's terror threats, we need to be able to find bad people, not bad objects. We can only do that by assessing passengers for risk with appropriate security checks to follow," he told journalists at the body's Geneva headquarters.

Meanwhile, tough new airport checks in force in the US have been causing controversy. In November, US senators at a hearing complained to Transportation Security Administrator John Pistole about the more rigorous screening which entails patdowns or highly detailed body imaging.

The new procedures come after several foiled plots in the past year, including a Nigerian man who tried to detonate explosives hidden in his underwear aboard a US flight from Amsterdam to Detroit in December 2009.

cro -- with wire reports
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Post by TexasBlue Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:11 pm

If we were to even think about doing this, the ACLU would be first in line with a suit against the govt here.
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Post by BubbleBliss Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:47 pm


I doubt this is going to become reality. Of course, the security people do it already if they see somebody suspicious, but with the amount of Turks living in Germany, you couldn't possibly frisk every single one of them, you'd have to watch for clues about who might carry something illegal on them.
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Post by TexasBlue Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:09 pm

The other problem with profiling is when there's laws against it as we have here in the USA. People still cry profiling even when it wasn't.
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:18 pm

German airports are considering assigning passengers to risk categories based on their age and ethnicity, and checking them accordingly

how many decades heave airports used [undisclosed] passenger profiling in the un-winnable drugs war.. not only has passenger profiling not worked but it became a useful tool drug-lords in getting their stuff into a country.

how long will it take bandits to start to use the tools of the drug-lord ?

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Post by BubbleBliss Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:00 am

TexasBlue wrote:The other problem with profiling is when there's laws against it as we have here in the USA. People still cry profiling even when it wasn't.

Well, that will always be the case. People abuse laws whenever they can!
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:20 pm

TexasBlue wrote:The other problem with profiling is when there's laws against it as we have here in the USA. People still cry profiling even when it wasn't.

BubbleBliss wrote:Well, that will always be the case. People abuse laws whenever they can!

the police the world over never think the law apply to them.. they make up their own rules Eyeye

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Post by TexasBlue Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:30 pm

I disagree. I think the majority of the police (at least here in the USA) follow the rules. There's always the bad apples that give a bad name for the rest.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:44 pm

TexasBlue wrote:I disagree. I think the majority of the police (at least here in the USA) follow the rules. There's always the bad apples that give a bad name for the rest.

that's what they all say.. even in Iraq Eyeye

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Post by TexasBlue Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:45 pm

People can be fucked up any where you go. I've seen that my whole life. It knows no race, nationality or sex.
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