Arizona's immigration law
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Arizona's immigration law
I don't get why judges are blocking this law from going into effect. News articles say that the judge diffused some angry people against this law...well, what about the people (like the Arizona governor and me) that are for it? This decision has made the opponents happy but made us upset.
The federal govt is not doing anything about fence climbers (and even if they were doing something about it, they would do the same thing)
The federal govt is not doing anything about fence climbers (and even if they were doing something about it, they would do the same thing)
TheNextPrez2012
Re: Arizona's immigration law
Opponents of the law (including the President and Dept. of Homeland Security) contend that only the federal government -- not individual states -- can govern immigration and make laws regarding it. The judge didn't block the whole law, just the most contentious parts (a part regading hiring illegal immigrants still stands, for example). But don't hold your breath; this is far from over. It will likely go to the supreme court eventually, and the earliest they can hear it is October because they're in recess now. Next stop for the law will be the 9th circuit court.
Guest- Guest
Re: Arizona's immigration law
It's mostly an injunction, instead of a ruling. This judge could have very well ruled it unconstitutional. I haven't read her ruling yet. I heard it's 32 pages.
I can say this though. Many people are pissed off at this whole thing to start with. The Fed, for some strange reason, refuses to to enforce the law as it's written. It failed to do so under Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and it's failing under Obama. Economics plays a big part of this. Many people are out of work and many illegals have jobs. Many cities are struggling to cut budgets and illegals are recipients of some things in this regard.
All i want is the Fed to enforce the damn law. If this would be done, this AZ law never would've even seen light of day much less thought of.
This issue isn't over, as alluded to above. It's a hot issue with many people in this country. In fact, it's a steaming pot that's ready to boil over.
I can say this though. Many people are pissed off at this whole thing to start with. The Fed, for some strange reason, refuses to to enforce the law as it's written. It failed to do so under Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and it's failing under Obama. Economics plays a big part of this. Many people are out of work and many illegals have jobs. Many cities are struggling to cut budgets and illegals are recipients of some things in this regard.
All i want is the Fed to enforce the damn law. If this would be done, this AZ law never would've even seen light of day much less thought of.
This issue isn't over, as alluded to above. It's a hot issue with many people in this country. In fact, it's a steaming pot that's ready to boil over.
TexasBlue
Re: Arizona's immigration law
I haven't read the ruling either, but it's online here:
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/072810_ArizonaRuling.pdf
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/072810_ArizonaRuling.pdf
Guest- Guest
Re: Arizona's immigration law
Since the injunction, the judge has received hundreds of threats, and Democratic politician closed his office after someone fired a bullet through a window. Ya don't see liberals doing this sort of stuff to protest against things.
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/30/az-threats-judge/
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LiveWire/91477
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/30/az-threats-judge/
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LiveWire/91477
Guest- Guest
Re: Arizona's immigration law
Seriously? Here's some documented cases of liberal violence, intimidation, and vandalism
October 8, 2005, Seattle, WA: Veteran's Home Vandalized
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/243883_robert08x.html?source=rss
September 4, 2005, Louisiana: Democrat Senator Threatens Violence Against Bush
Mary Landrieu: I'll Punch Bush, 'Literally'
April 25, 2005, National: Leftist Radio Host Jokes About Assassinating Bush
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/12/153908.shtml
February 17, 2005, Portland, OR: Former Pentagon Adviser Assaulted at University
Protester throws shoe at Richard Perle http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6991863/
January 24, 2005, Milwaukee, WI: Five Democrats Charged with Election-Day Tire Slashing
http://www.wisn.com/news/4113353/detail.html
November 8, 2004, San Francisco, CA: Muslim/Democrat Mob Attacks College Republicans
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15855
October 22, 2004, Tuscon, AZ: Conservative Commentator Assaulted at University
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/1022CoulterSpeech22-ON-CP.html
October 5, 2004, Orlando, FL: Democrat Mob Storms GOP HQ, Injures Staffers
http://www.local6.com/politics/3785861/detail.html
March 20, 2003, Madison, WI: Republican Headquarters Vandalized
GOP headquarters in Madison hit with bricks, paint bombs
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/mar03/127180.asp
March 11, 2003, Los Angeles, CA: Peaceniks Destroy 9-11 Memorial
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31473
April 1, 2005, Violent leftist/Democrat physically assaults conservative Pat Buchanan at Western Michigan University
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7356248/
October 8, 2005, Seattle, WA: Veteran's Home Vandalized
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/243883_robert08x.html?source=rss
September 4, 2005, Louisiana: Democrat Senator Threatens Violence Against Bush
Mary Landrieu: I'll Punch Bush, 'Literally'
April 25, 2005, National: Leftist Radio Host Jokes About Assassinating Bush
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/12/153908.shtml
February 17, 2005, Portland, OR: Former Pentagon Adviser Assaulted at University
Protester throws shoe at Richard Perle http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6991863/
January 24, 2005, Milwaukee, WI: Five Democrats Charged with Election-Day Tire Slashing
http://www.wisn.com/news/4113353/detail.html
November 8, 2004, San Francisco, CA: Muslim/Democrat Mob Attacks College Republicans
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15855
October 22, 2004, Tuscon, AZ: Conservative Commentator Assaulted at University
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/1022CoulterSpeech22-ON-CP.html
October 5, 2004, Orlando, FL: Democrat Mob Storms GOP HQ, Injures Staffers
http://www.local6.com/politics/3785861/detail.html
March 20, 2003, Madison, WI: Republican Headquarters Vandalized
GOP headquarters in Madison hit with bricks, paint bombs
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/mar03/127180.asp
March 11, 2003, Los Angeles, CA: Peaceniks Destroy 9-11 Memorial
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31473
April 1, 2005, Violent leftist/Democrat physically assaults conservative Pat Buchanan at Western Michigan University
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7356248/
TexasBlue
Re: Arizona's immigration law
Ann Coulter gets a pie thrown at her during a speech at the U of Arizona;
TexasBlue
Re: Arizona's immigration law
Oh c'mon... are you really trying to equate a pie in the face, graffiti, and throwing a shoe and salad dresing with firing a bullet through a window and death threats...? You can do better than that.
Guest- Guest
Re: Arizona's immigration law
TexasBlue wrote:Then we have this;
Okay... let's just assume this guy's a liberal. He pushed somebody's wife, and if it were me I'd be plenty p'd-off, but by the same token conservatives bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors who perform abortions, then there's the bombing of the Murrah Building in Oaklahoma City. Pushing somebody's wife seems pretty tame in comparrison.
ETA: take a look at this article. It says it a lot better than I can:
http://progressivenation.us/2009/08/07/conservative-incitement-leading-to-increase-in-violence/
Guest- Guest
Re: Arizona's immigration law
We could go on for weeks with this.
http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html
http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html
TexasBlue
Re: Arizona's immigration law
TexasBlue wrote:We could go on for weeks with this.
Yes, and you'd still be wrong. Okay... that sign calling for the murder of Bush is inexcusable and a crime. But I gotta say, that is still rather tame compared to the actions of some conservatives. Carrying a sign and committing violence are 2 very different things.
Guest- Guest
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